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Showing posts with label selingkuh. Show all posts



Pas banget lagi sambil dengerin lagunya Rossa "Atas Nama Cinta"...

Jadi inget smua soal relationship dan selingkuh. Orang pada mikir selingkuh itu indah.. bahkan bekas cowo gw dulu bela-belain pacaran supaya bisa selingkuh... huhh..

Trus inget temen baik gw.. cewe... dia pacaran sama cowo yang dah beristri.. si cowo di jawa timur, cewe di jawa tengah.. dan sang istri di luar jawa..

wew...

kemudian di dalam perselingkuhannya si cowo suka jalan sama cewe lain di jawa timur. klo pas clubbing ma gw, cuman senyum, kadang sambil nyium pipi gw. bilang, jangan bilang cewe gw..

sementara si cewe, temen baik gw ndiri juga... selalu jadiin gw alasan buat nemuin cowo laen. jadi dia bilang ke pacarnya jalan ma gw, padahal dia nemuin cowo laen. sooooo....

semuanya selingkuh! ga ada yang setia... even in straight relationship

Tapi kemudian sang cowo suka marah-marah. cemburuan. suka nuduh temen cewe gw macem-macem. dan kemudian temen cewe gw. suka nangis, curhat ke gw. karena sering ngegap cowonya lagi sms  / chat mesra ma cewe laen...

gw sih nyante.. meski gw temen baik mereka. gw ga cerita kalo sebenernya dua-duanya sama-sama selingkuh. gw cuman bisa nguatin mereka berdua. ngedengerin curhatannya.. dan juga ngasih saran supaya pasangannya ngga selingkuh.. (seringkali berhasil, tapi kemudian mereka bikin taktik baru buat selingkuh..)

jadi kalo gw punya 100 tips buat bikin pacar lo setia, berarti gw punya 101 tips selingkuh.. begitu seterusnya. karena mereka ga pernah abis cara buat selingkuh..

terus inget lagi temen kerja gw , cowo, jaga toko buku. suatu saat temen cowo ini lagi masalah ma istrinya. selingkuh. gw cuman denger. tapi ga mau korek-korek. suatu saat dia bilang. seharusnya jangan nyalahin seseorang kenapa selingkuh. tapi tanya dulu, kenapa dia selingkuh. pasti selingkuh ada sebabnya. dan biasanya alasannya adalah kesalahan sang pacar, sehingga dia jadi selingkuh.

nah loh...

bisa dibenarkan sih alasannya... cuman...
balik lagi ke alasan awal kenapa mereka berkomitmen
tentunya mereka musti bisa nerima keadaan satu sama laen...
seharusnya ketika mereka ngejalanin, dan ada masalah

kemudian mulai berpikir buat selingkuh...
mereka kudu inget bahwa komitmen mereka buat nerima keadaan satu sama laen
kalo kemudian ngga bisa menjaga komitmen itu..

then get over it!

ngga usah pake selingkuh


Dony Dumbledore wrote:


kata-kata itu terlontar dari teman saya saat kami sedang berbincang-bincang tentang "dunia ini". APAKAH BENAR? saya kemudian memutar otak dan mengingat-ingat kembali.

saya kemudian mengingat yang terjadi pada saya dan orang-orang disekitar saya. hmmm.. ada benarnya juga.. sangat benar malah. saya sendiri pernah menjalani 2 kali relationship dan saya selingkuh. even saya tidak jatuh cinta pada selingkuhan saya tersebut tapi at lease saya having sex.

saya kemudian melihat teman-teman dan orang-orang yang saya kenal di dunia homoseksual ini. TIDAK ADA satupun dari mereka yang tidak pernah berselingkuh. semuanya pernah! saya kemudian bertanya pada mereka kenapa mereka melakukannya. padahal mereka sangat mencintai pasangan mereka. mereka menjawab "buat seru-seruan aja"
wah.. kalau saya ditanya dengan pertanyaan yang sama saya akan menjawab dengan jawaban yang sama pula.

penyakit KETIDAKSETIAAN ini pasti tidak hanya terjadi di dunia kita. Straight people as well. tapi saya pikir kita cenderung lebih mudah melakukannya karena kita SEJENIS.

Selingkuh.... bisa berarti sangat relatif. ada yang mungkin menganggap melakukan hubungan badan itu berarti selingkuh, ada yang apabila sampai MAIN HATI, itu baru selingkuh. tapi ada juga yang hanya dengan memikirkan&mengkhayalkan orang lain selain pasangannya sudah disebut selingkuh.

untuk mengeneralisasi, kita bicara selingkuh dengan satu konteks saja. KONTAK FISIK.
Nah... apakah anda SETIA?

Andy Lotex dalam novelnya yang berjudul "Kau bunuh aku denagn cintamu" mengatakan
MENCINTAI BINAN/PLU SAMA SAJA DENGAN MENJARING ANGIN

so, undies silahkan memberi komentar jika anda mendukung atau membantah pernyataan ini. kuncinya.. Be honest to your self!

selamat hari raya idul fitri 1429 H, minal aidin walfaidzin.
----dumbledore---



dida wrote:



entah bagaimana saya mengungkapkan apa yg saya rasakan belakangan ini
apalagi, tadi dia menegaskan lagi by phone ...

sedih, kecewa, marah, dll bercampur aduk

betapa tidak, belakangan ini dengan tanpa perasaan, mantan (apa iya 'mantan'? karena saya masih menganggap dia orang paling special dalam hidup saya) kembali menegaskan bahwa dia lebih menyukai sex tanpa perasaan daripada dengan saya

yg membuat saya sakit, bukan karena dia tidak mau lagi, tapi kenyataan bahwa selama ini dia berbohong
kalo dia tidak lagi having fun dengan laki2, OK, saya mendukung, makanya saya tidak keberatan kami putus baik2
malah, saya senang kalo dia memang full mengesampingkan naluri biseksnya

tapi ternyata dia bohong
itu alasan yg dia buat
ternyata, dia masih punya selingkuhan (laki2) yg bisa dia panggil kapan saja dia mau!
dan, itu dia katakan sendiri!

saya marah karena kebohongannya
kalo dia bilang bosen pada saya, it's ok. kurang puas, it's ok
tapi, kenapa harus bohong dengan bilang mau konsen ke urusan keluarga?

kebohongan lain, dia selalu bilang sibuk sekali
dia bilang tidak punya waktu di weekday, sehingga ketemu dengan saya (saat masih jalan) hanya di weekend sehingga saya menempatkan pernikahan saya dalam resiko besar, karena weekend yg harusnya waktu untuk istri, saya pakai (sebagian) buat dia
jelas, saya memilih cari alasan ke istri (yg pasti terasa dibuat2, apalagi oleh teman2 str8 yg juga istrinya di luar kota) ... untung, istri saya orangnya tabah! jadi dia tidak banyak tanya dan percaya saja alasan saya

sementara, si partner sex nya sekarang, justru tidak punya waktu di weekend, malah weekend ga mau diganggu karena untuk keluarga
jadi, ternyata dia bisa menyisihkan waktu di weekday, untuk sex bebasnya itu
kenapa dulu dengan saya ga bisa? bukankah harusnya dia ngerti bahwa weekend itu adalah waktu untuk istri saya? kenapa dia tidak bisa memahami kondisi saya setelah menikah?
padahal saya sangat memahami kondisi dia setelah menikah. harusnya pasangan yg sama2 sudah menikah adalah saling mendukung, agar sama2 terhindar dari kecurigaan istri masing2?

tambah kesel lagi, dia selalu menyalahkan saya apabila ada masalah dalam pernikahannya
padahal, justru saya yg menempatkan pernikahan saya dalam resiko
toh, saya tidak pernah mengganggu waktu dia dengan istrinya
saya juga tidak pernah menghubungi dia. baik sms atau telpon, karena takut dia sedang dengan istrinya ... saya hanya merespon sms atau telpon dia, karena itu artinya dia sedang leluasa
tapi, kalo ada masalah, dia menyalahkan saya!

masih sangat banyak kekecewaan dan kekesalan, yg belum saya ungkapkan
tapi, sudahlah

yg jelas, saya sangat kecewa dan kecewa
ternyata perjuangan saya selama bertahun2, mengistimewakan dia di atas siapapun
semua data penting (PIN ATM, PIN Pad, password, dll) saya gunakan tanggal lahir dia, tanggal kami mulai ketemu, dll
bahkan, seandainya saya diberi kepercayaan memiliki anak, saya sudah siapkan nama ... nama yg memuat nama dia ...

ah, ternyata itu hanya kebodohan saya saja

sia2 semua pengorbana saya untuk dia
memang, bukan pengorbanan materi, karena memang saya ga punya apa2
tapi sya nyaris mengorbankan perkawinan, waktu, kesetiaan, dll
betapa tidak, bagaimana akan ada orang yg bisa suka saya, kalo saya selalu menyebut2 'mantan' dalam setiap kesempatan? sehingga, teman2 baru ssaya kesl bukan kepalang ...
seolah tidak ada orang lain lagi di dunia ini, selain mantan ...itu kata teman2

memang tolol ya?

semua pengorbanan itu sia2

apakah saya memang manusia sebodoh itu? yg terbutakan oleh cinta?
ah, saya tidak tau lagi apa istilah untuk diri saya

yg jelas, setelah semuanya jelas
saya tidak ragu lagi untuk melupakan dia, selamanya
ternyata, dia bukan orang yg pantas untuk saya berikan cinta sebesar yg mampu saya beri

4 tahun berjuang untuk cinta, ternyata perjuangan itu sia2 ... NOL BESAR!

untuk teman2, hati2lah dengan CINTA

jangan berikan cintamu terlalu mendalam


untuk Si Mantan, ini yg bisa kukatakan sama kamu :

"kusadari, ku tak sempurna
ku tak seperti yg kau inginkan

kau hancurkan hatiku dengan sikapmu
tak tahukah kau telah menyakitiku

lelah hati ini meyakinkanmu
cinta ini .. "

tidak, cinta ini tidak membunuhku!

sekilas lagunya D'Masiv
tapi, cinta ini tidak akan membunuhku
justru dengan kenyataan itu, aku makin tegar!

thx telah menyadarkanku dari tidur lelap selama ini

mudah2an kamu mendapatkan cinta yg lebih besar dari cintaku padamu!




Ervanthe wrote:


Ada beberapa dari kita mengaku sebagai BISEXUAL. Tapi...benar gak Bisexual???? . Karena menurut gw dari harfiah katanya saja BI & SEXUAL. BI = udah jelas2 dong artinya "dua".

Nah..jika loe merasa "BI", benar gak 50% loe suka cewek? & 50% nya lagi loe suka ama cowok???. Tolong dipikirkan lagi bagi kita2 semua yg merasa berpredikat BI.

Ini sih pengalaman gw sj, honestly.... gw kurang sreg untuk menjalin sebuah hubungan komitmen dengan orang yg berpredikat BISEXUAL. Intinya sih mereka rada2 ribet ya... Apalg untuk mereka yg sudah beristri [mohon maaf]. Kadang mereka confused dengan diri
mereka sendiri, & gw gak mau masuk dalam lingkaran confusednya tsb.

Ada sebuah cerita......
Dulu...gw pernah berkenalan dengan seseorg yg ajang kenalannya dari friendster [biasalah... .]. Setelah cukup lama kirim2 message via ajang tersebut and then kita tukeran no HP. Krn kita berdua adalah sesama komunitas esia nih..., akhirnya telpon2an lah, ngobrol lama2 dan trus begitu selama hampir 1,5 bulan. Anak tsb ngakunya biseksual, katanya dia pernah mau hampir tunangan and then BATAL. Gw gak tanya knp sampe Batal.

Sebenarnya sih mulai dr dpt nmr telpon dia & sebaliknya, kita sering bgt untuk make appoinment untk ketemuan. Tapi....kadang gw-nya lah yg gak bisa atau kadang itu anak
yg gak bisa.

Akhirnya...setelah 1,5 bln telpon2, kita ketemuan. Sebenarnya gw gak terlalu antusias dengan ketemuan itu, even picnya dia di FS good looking sih. But..i must be carefull karena itu tadi....HE IS A BISEXUAL. Dlm otak gw org biseksual = orng yg bingung [maaf ya].

Pas udh ketemu, itu anak sih emang cakep. Tp gw tetap pasang kuda2....gw tetap yakinkan diri gw "jangan sampe gw kebawa perasaan" krn tampangnya. :)
Kita akhirnya ngobrol2. Ngobrolnya sih enak.....ada chemistry, nyambung, lucu & gak garing. Setelah 2,5 jam kita ngobrl2, akhirnya pulang ke rmh masing2. Pd saat pulang itu dia sempat bilang "keep in touch" ya.... Dan jwban gw "ok".

[Panjang ya bow..critanya]
Sampe di rmh, tiba2 esia gw bunyi dan ternyata dia telpon. Kita ngobrol2 lagi... Trus katanya dia sempat bilang suka ama gw. Hehehe..... "Semoga kita bisa jadi sohiban dulu ya" begitu ktnya. Gw sih IYa-in sj krn gw tetap waspada dengan sinyal BISEXSUALnya.

Setelah 1 minggu dr ketemuan tsb, pas weekend tiba. Gw coba call dia cuma sekedar mau ajak nonton, 2 kali gw call and then gak diangkat. Gw sih gak mau sms, miscalled gw pasti muncul dong di HPnya. But....ternyata dia gak telp balik pada hari itu jg. Untung gw waktu itu udh pergi nontn ama tmn gw yg lain, dan gw gak terlalu mikirin knp itu org gak angkat telp gw & gak berharap juga untuk balik dia telp gw.

Sampe skrg itu org gak ada lg telp gw, and then gw juga udh deleted nmr dia dr HP gw. :)

Nah..itu tadi, knp gw bicara bisexual adlh org yg bingung. Mereka benar2 bingung ama diri mereka. Kadang mereka ksh sinyal2 suka sama kita tp itu semua kamuflase. Ini opini gw saja lho....

Thank You,

ERVAn

The Queer wrote:


bingung yah ama bisexual... hihihihi

males banget ama yang bisexual, ga jelas maunya gimana
kalo ama cowo ya cowo aja.. ama cewe ya cewe aja..
tapi sebenernya itu hal yang sama persis ama yang dirasain kaum cewe
bukan posisi yang nyaman buat cowo ataupun cewe yang jadi pacarnya

buat gw sih, kalo misal lo seorang bisexual
lo musti tetep pegang komitmen dan kesetiaan
bukan alasan karena lo seraong bisexual, lo boleh punya pacar cewe dan cowo SEKALIGUS
kalo lo lagi deket ama cewe, atau malah jadian... ga boleh selingkuh dengan cowo laen
komitmen dan kesetiaan, soal cinta apalagi, cuman butuh dua orang, ga boleh ada yang laen

kalo orang yang masih dalam keadan BINGUNG menentukan orientasi seksualnya
it doesn't mean that he's bisexual, because he hasn't approved it yet
dia belum menentukan pilihan apakah dia gay, straight, or bi
masih mencari jati diri i guess...

terus terang gw ga terlalu masalah ama bisexual
asal ya itu tadi... dia ngga seenaknya dalam urusan pacaran, mentang2 bisexual
terus bisa jalan ama cowo dan cewe bersamaan

tapi SAYANGNYA....
banyak di antara kita yang mengaku dirinya biseksual
tetapi hanya sebagai kedok semata

sometimes it's so obvious that he / she mostly attracted to the same gender
tapi karena alasan takut ketauan lingkungan keluarga / masyarakat
karena alasan gengsi, supaya keliatan lebih jagoan
dia mengungkapkan statusnya sebagai biseksual

padahal duhhhh...
compact powder dibawa kemana-mana
gw sendiri yakin, kalo orang yang ngaku biseksual sebagai kedok semata
dalam hatinya dia tau, hubungan mana yang bikin dia ngerasa lebih nyaman

beberapa hari yang lalu ada temen cewe yang cerita ke gw
ternyata cowonya lagi jalan ma cowo laen
dia bingung musti gimana...
dia ngerasa sayang, sekalgus prihatin ama status seksual cowonya
dia ga pengen ninggalin tu cowo, dia pengen bersama selamanya

sementara si cowo ga bisa mengambil keputusan

gw bilang ke temen cewe gw..:
oh honey, hubungan yang lo bikin ngga sebanding ama pengorbananmu
lo di sini dengan cintamu
sementara cowo lo bersenang-senang dengan cowo laen

sekarang bukan saatnya lo mikirin masalah orientasi seksual yang dialamin cowo lo
tapi lo musti lebih mikirin perasaan elo

kalo toh cowo lo beneran cinta ama elo
dia pasti rela ninggalin kehidupannya bareng cowo-cowo laen
at least selama dia masih jalan ama elo
karena terserah mau ama cowo atau ama cewe, selama dia masih jalan berdua ama elo, artinya dia selingkuh
lo mau diselingkuhin ama cowo lo?
kalo lo ngga keberatan sih, then case settled

kalo cowo lo lebih ngerasa nyaman jalan ama cowo
that means he's gay
lo musti rela nglepasin dia, dan muncul hanya sebagai sahabat atau saudara
mungkin dengan begitu kalian bisa lebih deket
buat dia juga pasti lebih mudah, karena ngga akan ngerasa nyakitin elo

tapi.. tapi...
kalo cowo lo belum bisa ngambil keputusan
berarti either he doesn't really love you.. or he's gay
sama sekali ga ada kemungkinan dia straight
you've got no chance

karena kalo toh dia bisexual
dia pasti bakal tetep milih jalan ma elo dan ninggalin cowo lainnya
kalo dia beneran suka ama elo

kalo dia masih ngerasa bingung,
dan mungkin pengen balik jadi straight

dalam posisi sekarang, dia lebih butuh cewe sebagai temen atau sahabat
untuk selalu bisa ngasih support dia

karena kalo lo muncul sebagai kekasih
itu hanya sebagai beban buat cowo gay yang berusaha jadi straight
karena ketika dia sedang belajar mencintai.. dia takut elo ngerasa ngga cukup dengan cinta yang diberikannya
it's hard for him... and you...

then she said she will think about it...

.....

jadi balik lagi ke hal yang pengen gw utarain sebelumnya
ketika lo memilih predikat lo sebagai apa..
gay, straight or even biseksual

pastiin lo udah bener-bener tau dengan apa yang lo mau
makanya gw sering becandain temen gw yang straight soal orientasi seksualnya

"lo tuh bukan straight, belum tau aja ngerasain ama cowo.. sini gw pletekin!"

huehehehe...
ntar kalo lo ga doyan, baru kebukti lo straight

atau kalo nyokap gw nanya, gw suka cowo atau suka cewe..

"belum tau mam, lagi dicobain aja dua-duanya.. entar kalo udah ketauan gw gay, bi, atau straight. dikabarin deh!"

nyokap gw langsung merajuk, sementara gw ketawa
dalam hati, gw gay sih.. cuman belum saatnya aja ngomong.. ntar ah kalo gw udah nemu pasangan yang bener2 cocok



The wrote:

Halah... males juga sebenernya cerita2x coz gw termasuk anggota milis yang pasif selama ini...

Tapi okelah gw cerita ajah... Pada dasarnya mungkin gw adalah Gay tapi sebenernya apa yang gw lakukan saat ini bisa dibilang Bi.. Gw memang berencana menikah (dengan Cewek tentunya) dalam waktu dekat dan ini membuat gw berfikir dua kali atas jalan yang bakalan gw tempuh nantinya.

Gw merasa apa yang gw jalanin selama ini tidak sepenuhnya salah, karena gw jarang juga sih menjalani hubungan sesama, cuma dulu ajah gw pernah ML tapi gak sampe analsex seh dan itu sudah 2 tahun yang lalu. Jadi gw gak pernah merasa menghianati cewek gw padahal hubungan gue sudah berjalan 10 tahun. Gw beruntung ajah dapet cewek yang pengertian sama gw jadinya semua rahasia hidup gw pun dia tahu..

Cuman nieh, berhubung mau nikah koq gw jadi merasa bingung yah?? takut ajah kalo keputusan gw untuk nikah ini salah meskipun gw yakin bahwa cewek gw itu bener2x yang gw cari selama ini.

Dan baru ajah 4 bulan terakhir gw kenal cowok yang rada reseks, gw gak nyangka dia bakalan ganggu idup gw ajah, dia selalu telepon de el el.. dan barusan 2 hari yang lalu akhirnya gw memutuskan untuk bertindak tegas sama tuh cowok, gw bilang ajah bahwa hubungan ini salah dan gak semestinya kayak begini dan lagian juga gw punya planning untuk nikah,

gw sih bilang sama dia bahwa udah saatnya kita gak saling bicara lagi coz gw gak mau pernikahan gw gagal nantinya. Untungnya nieh cowok bukan tipe yang tempramen dan dia ngerti2x ajah.. cuma sih perasaan was was dalam hati gw tetep ajah ada, takut ajah kalo dia tiba2x berani mengatakan smuanya didepan orang2x yang gw kenal...

Gimana yah? mungkin gak sih kalo saat ini gw lagi bingung menentukan identitas diri sendiri? kira2x gw udah bener lom yah???

i wrote:

selamat atas rencana lo bakal nikah
saran gw sih.. go for it
it would bering u a new happy life
may god be with u both..

soal cowo itu
saran gw paling gampang sih..
cuekin aja

tapi alo sisal dia beneran udah mulai masuk ke kehidupan lo
lo musti bilang ke istri lo ntar
soal ada cowo yang pernah deket ama lo

lo bilang aja, selama ini lo ga nyangka arahnya ke hubungan gay kaya gitu
makanya begitu tau, lo langsung ga mau urusan lagi ma dia
(termasuk bohong ngga sih, hehehe.. cuman yang jelas smua bakal baik-baik aja. istri lo ngga tersakiti. dan toh lo juga bener-bener nyeselin hubungan lo ama tu cowo)

jadi pas tuh cowo itu muncul, dan ngerusak smuanya
lo bisa yakin, istri lo ada di pihak lo



celebes81 wrote:

reading your summary reminds me of my own life, a life which i can't really comprehend. Deep down inside my heart, there is a conflict, a conflict which creates so much pain.

I love her, yet i do love him. I remember vividly the sweet moments I had with my girlfriend, but I can not deny that my time with him is wonderful. No my friend, it is not the physical sensation that I remembered, it is something deeper. It is something which make my heart beats being with them. It is something which makes my heart beats writing it here.

My girlfriend is my classmate in high school. She's sweet and feminime. She's very kind too. In fact, she's the only girl that I have truly fell in love with. And it was for the first time that she
and I have ever had a serious relationship in our life. Our first loves. We were both not really approachable. .. I guess, we both don't fall in love quite easily...

I knew her for quite a long time. She was the the only girl in the highschool that created a unique impression on me for the very first time. That was when she walked along our dining hall (my high shool is a boarding school, where all students have meal together). At that time, she still wore her blue and white junior high school uniform (we were not officially admitted to the high shool yet - so we still wore our junior uniform). She looked kind of cute with her rather short hair. Over time, sometimes we had meal together. And those were the time that I got to know her more. She's soft spoken and well behaved, my kind of girl. In short, we were becoming closer and closer. I guess she found comforts being with me.

I did my undergraduate study overseas. It was here that I met a gentle, caring, and good looking guy. We met accidently actually. It was in the lecture theatre, when I was asking my friends for their weekly project reports :D . Then this guy voluntarily offered his to me. Well, why not. So i accepted and we introduced ourselves. He comes from our neighbouring country, somewhere further north. At that time, I absolutely had no other intention but to be a friend. He looked friendly. As a token of appreciation, I accompanied him walking down

to get his bycicle. We talked a lot. Days after days, we were getting even closer. And he really cared of me. We studied together. And he always brought me some of my favourite foods, snacks, etc. That's something that I really appreciated. Not something that I was commonly treated by my other friends.

Unfortunately (or fortunately) , it didnt stop there. Sometimes i feel missing him when he was not around. Well, I thought that was okay. Afterall he was very nice to me. And I did not keep it to myself. I told him that sometimes I missed him, and so he did.

Until one day, I told him that maybe we were a bit too far. Then he cried... I couldn't help but cried too (since he looked so sad). Then we went to have some nice dinner, intended to be a goodbye dinner. The next day he was still very sad. So I visited him in his house.

That was where all hells started to break loose... I felt so sad to see him crying. I hugged him... Then he slowly kissed me. I was out of my mind when I chose to close my eyes. It was a very tender kiss, a kiss on my lips. And that was the very first time that anyone had ever kissed me. The feeling of being kissed by a guy was mixed... I didnt really truly understand what I did. I justified myself and told myself that I was just exploring my sexuality. The day just ended with a kiss. Nothing more. Needless to say, it meant a lot to me. Or rather, it created a lot of questions in my mind.

Subsequently, I really wanted to explore my real identity. Am I gay? Am I straight? By that time, I have slowly freed myself from religion. So why not explore the other side of my life: my true sexual orientation. As a young and naive man, I search through countless gay and straight sex websites. I watched movies. Then I discovered that I am not that straight. Maybe I am a bisexual. I am aroused by handsome and rather (not the very) muscular young men. But I am also aroused by sexy young lady... But I guess it changes over time too. Sometimes it tilts toward the gay side, but other times it swings back. Why is it? I was not quite sure. Then I came to realize that, as with most things in life, there's no such a thing as purely gay and straight. I dont see it as anything wrong anyway. It's a fact of life which I can not deny. The progress of civilizations might have marginalized this fact.

Oh yea, I mentioned that all hells started to break loose. I started to questions fidelity. The fact was, given our current norms, I have betrayed my girlfriend even though I still love her. The feeling of guilts started to develop. During some of my term breaks, I headed back to Indonesia and met my girlfriend. I missed her. We spent our time together. It was really nice. I promised myself not to dissapoint her. I am only hers. In the airport, before I flew back to my university, she wrote the signs I LOVE U on my palms. It made me so happy. She loooked really beautiful, with her white outfits. I still remember that moment, and so does she.

Soon after reaching the country of my study, I met him. I told him that I can't continue. I told him that I love my girlfriend. (By the way he knew that I had a girlfriend that I love). And..... he was devastated.

He drank a lot of liquour. I was so worried. I called one of my friend to help me handle him, never mind the risks of my friends knowing our affairs. I couldn't think clearly. I felt guilty toward him too. And he did not stop there. Several times he attempted to take his life... Those were the most terifying moments in my life. Never had I been confronted with these grave situations. He cant let me go....

I was in a deep dilemma. I could not see him like the way he was. He was so terrible. He seemed to have lost his purpose of life. . On the other hand, he cared for me a lot. He was very nice. Honestly, I have developed some feeling towards him. I
would not deny that I was also sexually attracted toward him. Well, honestly he has sex appeal and behaves like a metrosexual (I knew that he had some girlfriends to cover himself, and those girls are pretty. As a sidetrack, he hanged around with some actors, singers, and dancers (both girls and guys) of his home country. I knew it, because I once visited his home country and he brought me to this cafe where these so called local celebrities hanged around. I spotted couples of friendly gays over there. And friendly ladies too). But then.... I promised myself not to dissapoint her.

Over time, he showed some signs extreme possesiveness, even after all the things that I told him. I couldnt do much but to make sure he didnt commit suicides. I had no choice but to accompany him, or else.... I might regret for the rest of my life. I didnt want to deal with the police either, for trying to commit suicides is a serious offence in this country. I even imagined having to answer to the police and his family members(i have met them, and they were very
nice to me too) if he is dead. I dared not tell any of my other friends, for very obvious reasons. But they became suspicious too. I had no choice but to bear with it. The worst thing is... I felt like being trapped into a space and time with no way out. I was unable to think clearly. I stopped exploring the various alternatives that I might have. It is really hard to describe my feeling, and the state of my minds during this episode of my life -- which unfortunately didnt last for a short time. It lasted for months...

My girlfriend too became suspicious. Her friends over here become suspicious too. Then, finally I told her most of the true stories. I have to admit that I had physical contacts with him but i did not tell her. It is a shame, but up to know I still do not have the courage to tell her. She seemed to understand my situation. She was so worried about me too. But she was so far away...

Then it comes to my mind that I was not good enough for her. I still need to care of him. Of course she was very sad. But I didnt think of other alternatives. I let her go. I told her that I really love her.... And she told me that she loved me too... Not really a good way to say goodbye to somebody I love. From that moment on, I felt more relieved. At least I was no longer tied with her. She can find somebody that can better care for her.

Over time, he behaved more normally. I can sense his desire to live. He cared for me even more (driving, cooking, etc. -- he's a good cook). Sure, sometimes we argued over petty little things. But it was minor. He was no longer so possesive too.

Sometimes I truly missed her. But she is already with another guy. A guy who had landed her with his arms when she was so down. She didn't tell me how bad it was for her. It was only recently that she told her own story on how to deal with those period. I just realized how bad I was. It came to her mind to take her own life too. But fortunately, she was more responsible. She imagined how sad her family would have been, and how sad I would have been.

She wrote something for herself. She showed it to me. The first page reads:

"Kisah ini, sebagian membuatku tersenyum dan merasakan apa yang disebut bahagia. Sebagian lagi menyisakan sayatan yang amat dalam, meninggalkan bekas luka abadi dalam hatiku. Kadangkala bekasnya terbuka kembali sehingga tak pernah sembuh total seperti sedia kala..."

of which I responded:

"pengantar suatu kisah yang belum kamu selesaikan, kisah yang telah mengubah pelakunya menjadi orang-orang yang berbeda, kisah yang menunjukkan betapa hidup ini penuh dengan pilihan-pilihan dan terkadang pertentangan antara pikiran dan hati kecil kita -- antara yang dilihat dan yang tak terlihat, kisah yang memberi kesempatan pelakunya untuk merasakan bahwa hidup ini begitu berwarna, kisah yang semoga membuat pelakunya menjadi lebih dewasa"

There are some lessons which I learned. Never tell a lie. Not to everyone else, and not to myself. Once we tell a lie, we will need a whole lot of other lies to cover the previous lies. Even the smartest person will slip some times. And the lying exercise is very very tiring and exhausting. I could have told everyhing to my girlfriend from the very beginning. And the problem need not snowballed and made some people that I loved sad. Even if there was some element of gay-ness in my true self, I believe she would have better understood. And oh yea, trying to lie to everybody for the sake of good image will only hurt yourself. I also realized that I (and maybe most other people) tend to see only what is in front of my eyes. My decisions were mostly based on the fact that he was endangering his life. But I didnt take into account what happened to her... What a short sighted view of the world.

It started about 5 years ago. But the memories still are still strong. Now, work loads have taken a toll on me.

Up to now... I still love her. I really do. Somehow, I love him as well. Both are two persons which have changed my life... for good.

Salam sayang


...

Initially I can say that it was a triangle. But since I let her go, we were not technically in a triangle. She was with another guy. I continued to live with him.

Starting from the middle of last year, he has been taking his master study in the state. As a result, I have more solitary moments to think. Slowly my memories of her resurfaced. I thought I missed her a lot.

On my birthday last year, she sent me a message wishing me good luck. It became a starting point where our communications vastly improved. There was still feelings between us. There was still feelings suppressed by both of us for years, naively thinking that the other sides happily move on with their lives. Yes, she's got a boyfriend. Yes, I am doing alright with my job, a job which I like. But, deep down inside we still have a place for each other.

I have met her twice since then. Of course I cant go back to Indonesia so often.

I felt like I relived old memories. We went to parks where we used to spent our time together in the long past. We saw movies, went to jazz festival, etc. It was really nice. It was also for the very first time that I kissed her passionately, and more... As a sidetrack, I missed the train from Jakarta to where she lives now because I called her in the wartel (didn't have local number yet) to make sure that she would pick me up in the station. I was so surprised when I went upstairs to catch the train, it already started moving!!! I didn't quite expect the train service to be so on time!! Luckily the officer were kind enough exchange my ticket with another one. But I've got to
sit on the floor for 3 hours!!! Anyway I didn't want to wait for later trains.

However, we were not sure of how we should proceed. For one thing, I have created a bad impression on her family. A bisexual atheist to be your daughter's husband? Well, it is not something that can easily be taken in our society now. By the way, I am an open atheist (a little
tilted toward agnostic). Then, I am not very sure whether I will want to be with her forever either. She also doesn't want to hurt her current boyfriend.

So, both she and I took the last meetings for what they were, meetings for us to relive our past. Meetings for both of us to fulfill any fantasy which have haunted us for so long but dared not
tell each other. Yes, we were just in a fantasy land. We can not live in fantasy forever.

My boyfriend is finishing his study. He visited me recently. I realized that it is distance which foster the feeling of needs. During our years of living together, I didn't really think that I
will miss him so much if he is not around. But I am wrong.

She knows about him. He knows about her. So yea, you can say that it's a kind of triangle after all.



Gugun wrote:

Pacarku selingkuh, begitu bunyi posting yang di tulis seorang teman di multiply. Si penulis mengirim posting via japri,

"Kalo dari dunia G gimana Gun? pasti kalo ketahuan selingkuh tambah marah besar ya, secara kalian sama2 laki pasti pada ga mau ngalah.

Maaf ya kalo pertanyaanku lancang...kalo kamu mau jawab di blogku aku oke2 aja, kan biar orang tahu gimana dunia kalian sebenarnya."

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gmovies wrote today at 2:40 AM

Gpp. Dg senang hati akan dijawab. Mau ditampilin di MPmu pun juga gpp. Di dunia G perselingkuhan sedikit lebih rumit dari teman-teman straight (hetero). Walau saya sendiri belum memutuskan apa-apa. Tapi tertarik dengan fenomena alam yang katanya 'terlarang ini'
(hehehe, kaya gempa bumi aja).

Yang gw tahu ada beberapa jenis bentuk relationship sesama G :
1. Just friend. No sex
2. Friend & sex sometimes (kaya TTM gitu deh)
3. Lover

Perselingkuhan sangat sering terjadi. Tau kenapa? Di Indonesia, dunia ini masih undercover (gerakan bawah tanah), walau ada komunitas yang terang-terangan mengakui orientasi seksualnya. Kondisi ini menyebabkan tak ada kontrol dari lingkungan. Bingung yah? Hehehe

Gini deh. Bila Joko pacaran ama Tini, kemungkinan besar teman-teman mereka tahu. Keluarga mereka tahu. Tetangga akan tahu. Karena mereka dengan terbuka akan menunjukkannya. Si Joko akan mikir dua kali untuk selingkuh karena takut ketahuan. Peran kontrol lingkungan cukup kuat.

Tapi bila Joko dan Jaka pacaran, selagi hubungan mereka masih tertutup dan mereka tidak pernah menunjukkannya. Siapa yang tahu kalau Joko atau Jaka
setia atau selingkuh?. Hubungan dengan pacar aja
sangat di jaga rapat, apalagi dengan selingkuhan. ...
Gitu deh...

Tapi ini mungkin tidak berlaku umum. Mungkin ada yang
mau menambahkan atau membantah? Silahkan aja...

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gmovies wrote today at 2:41 AM

Kalau soal marah besar atau tidak. Itu tergantung pada
pribadi masing-masing. Ada juga kok yang cool-cool aja...


(?`.._..[_pooh_ ].._..??) wrote:

Semakin hari gue makin ragu sama yg
namanya Cinta di dunia G.
Bener kayanya klo pasangan kita suatu saat akan
ninggalin kita klo udah dapet yg baru n lebih baik
dari kita, n lebih nafsuin daripada kita.

Terus. terus.. terus. gak ada puasnya.
Gak ada yg seperti cinta antara laki2 dan perempuan.
Dia bilang sayang.. dia bilang cinta.
Tapi itu semua Cuma bullshit..

Gak ada cinta.
Yg ada Cuma nafsu.,.. nafsu. nafsu.
Gak ada sayang.
Boong.

Barusan aja gue OL pake yahuu id dia.
Tiba2 ada 3 org yg ngajak cet.
Yg satu brondong
Yang satu gadun.
Yg satu gak jelas. pake nanya kabar nyokap.

Gue pura2 jadi dia.
Itu temen dia ternyata.. ata "tmen"
Tapi gak ada di list..

Mungkin emang sengaja gak di add..

Buset deh. lo bilang lu gak pernah berhub ama G lain.
Lu selalu marah klo ada tmn lama gue yg G yg sms gue.
Tapi apa???

Berdasarkan hasil ceting barusan.
Lu duluan yg smsin si brondong, nanya kabar. dll
Maksudnya apa??? Bosen kali am ague :-)
Yaaaa yaa yaaa..

Beberapa minggu lagi lu kan akan tiba di tempat baru.
Jauh dari gue,,,
Jauuuhhhhhh bgt.
Lama bgt.....

Selamat deh.
Hope u'll find yg baru.

Gue gak percaya semua ucapan2 elo..
Sekian. gue capek. gue jenuh.,.. hueleh..

Saatnya tidur, bisa kesiangan nih gue.

Chardo Xargaz wrote:

yup aku stuju banget ma km!
suuuuussaaaaah bgt nyari true love di dunia G.
dulu aku slalu mabayangin G love yg romantis dan
everlasting gitu!tp kynya (dan juga dengerin
mailmu) harapan ku bakal pupus deh!!

peace


nice friends :) wrote:

hi gw cuma mo bilang...ada kok cinta disini...tapi
gmana kalian menyikapi pasangan aja...kuncinya harus
jujur n terbuka

gw boleh2 aja chat d gim n punya tmn 'g'...yang
penting bf gw tau n gw selalu cert k dia, bgt jg
sebaliknya.. ..temen gw temen bf gw juga..jadi ga ada
rahasia sama sekali...jadi jgn dilarang2..kalo

dilarang malah jadi suatu kebohongan asalkan kita
tetap setia ma pasangan...selama ini seh no problem...
pikirnya gni aja kalo mo tetep setia...ga mungkin kita
dapet pasangan yg lebih baik dari dia...susah bgt deh
pokoknya nyari ky dia :)

ada kok cinta d dunia 'g'...aku mengalaminya :)
thx...sori kalo ada salah :)

cheers

yongky eric wrote:

Bukan masalah salah atau tidak salah....namun perpisahan terjadi diawali adanya kesempatan terjadinya masalah "besar" (masalah disini bukan hanya masalah setia dan perselingkuhan saja tp bisa apa saja) yang menyebabkan berujung pada perpisahan.. .ingatlah bahwa hidup ini bukan hanya untuk cinta...karir, keluarga, apapun juga bisa menjadi "orang ketiga" yang menyebabkan putus cinta....

^_^



cowok-sby wrote...

Im getting realized, If I join this gay world, no need to use the feeling..
everytime I begins something with good thing always ends up into a bad thing..
funny how I like the classic romance, something natural, something that actually most people want..
I never did something I didnt like..I like my ex's cos they are now still my bestfriends..
but later on..
I might think to change..

its like this guys..Im only 24, I always interested with older guys, my first bf,
he is now my bestfriend, even my date from aussie (we met regularly long time ago)
he's now happy to tell his story about his marriage with a woman..
well I met some jerks ofcourse..and they are not worthed to remember..

and there's one day, I met this guy, I met from the net, really nice, we talked on the phone before for many times..
the problem is, I met him in my best time..
I was almost graduated..

One day, I dared him to see me, but in my campus, to see my Italian Drama Class. I was only the announcer not the actor. It was my final exam and my last subject to finish my bachelor degree..
so quite important moment for me..

I thought I was bluffing, I knew he wouldnt come but..in fact, he was there! I was surprised and happy..
well, he didnt look like the pict he gave me, but he was ok..
I didnt mind.. so.. we talked.. and he came by to my room, we ate sop buntut in a waroeng which is visited mostly by students, in front of my room as I promised him..
(he liked to try new place to eat) he said it was good..ok..
I liked it if he liked it..
and then we talked in my room, my empty room..(cos some of my stuffs were already packed cos I had to go abroad to study in a few weeks after). It was really nice..we talked about anything, everything..I had childrenbooks in dutch and I read em for him in Indonesian.. we talked about National Geographics, his hobbies, and finally he showed his familiy's pict..ok..good progress I thougt so, at that time..

and then..that's it..no sex! wow! he had to go home and I had to go to place to take care of my visa..he brought his motorbike and he took me there..ok..he was nice..
He knew that I was going to go to europe then..

second meeting..after all of the sms's...he said he was hungry and nothing to eat at home..so..I asked him to eat at my place..he came..we ate together..and we went to my room..talked again about everything..and ended with sex..he was funny, he was easy to be tickled..so I tickled his tummy sometimes..he was lil bit mad..but I liked it..he liked to look in to my eyes and make me feel embaressed..and then we never had the chance to meet again untill I went to europe for three months..

In europe, I met one Italian guy (he was a stupid asshole, it was a mistake), and I wrote my experience there to this mailist, and I wrote some of my fantasies too (only fantasies) and I never knew that he was here too! so he read my email here..when we chatted, he asked me bout the "Italian guy"..I was surprised, I didnt want him to know actually, he siad "u have the right to make friends with anyone you like" I was thinking "is he jealous? well, good then! I like it if he's jealous!" I thought I liked him, but I knew we never mentioned anything bout relationship, I knew that he knew that I liked him, I guess he liked me too..guys..I still like him anyway..but he never replies my sms, he doesnt even want to pick up my phone..

Was I cheating on him?
man! whats wrong with these people who dont want to pick up the phone and let someone else to talk?

I tried to forget him, but I cant..I did..but he comes back in my memories, last night I was thinking bout him and I dreamed about him..cos he's worthed, he's too beautiful to be forgotten..God dammit "xxxx" I stil keep your sms! and I read it all the time! I never delete your email!

what do you think guys?

ps: if you see QAF, I'll never wanna be Bryan..kinky, having sex here and there..I like it like Michael and his boyfriend (what's his name) Y the hell not? (eventhough Im not going to marry this guy anyway..)

miss you, I really do..I dont care if you believe me or not..at least those two days we met were beautiful for me..they are!
well, luckily now Im busy and never have a chance to meet someone new..


Inal akses wrote:

Dear all,

Sampai skrg ini aq
masih jalan dengan BF-q, dia anaknya baik, perhatian, dan sangat sayang ma
aq...aq sebenanrnya ngerasa beruntung bisa jalan dgn dia. Dia hadir dalam hidupq
ketika aq lagi depresi... sedih banget karena diputusin mantan BF-q.

hmmm.... tapi akhir-akhir ini aq ngerasa bersalah banget ma dia. Aq kok
sudah mulai ngerasa risih berhubungan dengan sesama jenis, pengen benar-benar
mengakhiri hubungan yang kata orang gak lazim.

Apalagi sekarang ini aq
lagi dekat dengan seorang gadis CS di ProXL, dia anaknya cantik, sayang banget
ke aq, dan rasanya aq mulai jatuh cinta ke dia. Tapi hubungan aq dengan gadis
ini belum diketahui oleh BF-q, aq takut kalo dia tahu trus dia marah, dan benci
aq....hmmm
Aq benar-benar ngerasa bingung, tapi aq gak bisa bohongin
perasaanq...
Apa aq udah kembali normal..? tolong bantu sarannya...!
Apa
yg baiknya aq lakukan, sehingga tdk ada yg merasa disakitin?


hai hai...
ngga ada yang salah dengan kejadian yang lo alamin
wajar banget orang bisa suka ke cewe atau ke cowo sekaligus
sekarang tinggal lo aja yang menempatkan smuanya pada posisi yang tepat
lo mau pilih yang mana?
cowo lo atau cewe baru ini...
smua keputusan ada di tangan lo..
lo ngga perlu bingung kalo cowo lo marah seandainya lo milih si cewe
atau lo juga ga perlu takut cewe lo freak out kalo lo end up dengan si cowo
yang penting gimana perasaan lo..
mana yang bisa bikin lo ngerasa nyaman..
karena kalo hubungan pacar,
bukan melulu soal tanggung jawab dan logika..
it's what you really feel
itu yang kita perlu pelajarin lebih jauh lagi..

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